Alex Stephenson, Sam Rubin
Tuesday, March 7, 2017 - 11:30
Alex and Sam discuss their thoughts on the future of Magic in today's video game and digital card game environment. Sam's YouTube channel: Sam's Twitch:


I used to really enjoy Magic. I drafted every week both online and in stores and bought packs and such. Magic online is absolutely awful. As mentioned in the video, they seem to have no interest in making it better. Cost is one of my main issues. There is no reason that a phantom draft should cost 10 dollars to join. It's bad enough they try to charge the same price as physical boosters online, but then they try to charge so much for phantom tournaments. I can understand charging a few dollars, but it's unacceptable. Not to mention the problems with bugs and outdated interface. The orcs and customer service are some of the worst people to try to deal with. No help whatsoever. I've never seen Wizards take any steps to make things better. I can't speak much for physical magic, but similar issues exist with overpriced product and honestly the player atmosphere is just not good. I'm not a huge fan of hearthstone, but at least they offer some free play and other options.

Thanks for your perspective. I'm also disappointed with a lot of the large scale decisions about Magic Online that have been made over the last 15 years. Unless this Magic Digital Next has some serious mechanisms that have been updated with the evolving game market, they really are shooting themselves in the foot

Great discussion. I'd definitely be interested in more of this kind of content.

Thanks Toby!

I like this new content, as opposed to all drafts all the time.

For the sake of argument, Sam mentioned that Hasbro might spend a bunch of money to reimburse MTGO digital object holders for their collections-I do not think this is likely. The precident of a toy company buying back its toys from the market cannibalizes it's own business model of selling toys for a profit-what's next, Barbies being bought back because there is a newer Barbie with new accessories? I think not. And while speaking of profits, that money spent buying collections would negatively impact the bottom line. I think it would be a tough sell to the owners of Hasbro-the shareholders-that profits be given to non-owners.

I understand also that in the terms of service that you have to agree to before playing the game mentions that the digital objects remain the property of Hasbro, so there's no reason Hasbro really has to reimburse you for objects that are theirs.

I think that when Magic Digital next comes out, it will either be like Magic Duels (magic lite), or a replacement of MTGO. If it's like Magic Duels, it's status-quo for collection value.

But, if Magic Digital Next is to replace MTGO, MTGO collection values will tend towards zero. Needless to say, there would be some bad feelings with those in the community who would be stuck holding the diminishing value of the digital objects. Some people will get pissed and quit magic forever, which is understandable. If Hasbro intends Magic Digital Next to replace MTGO, they must get the better gaming model, to make up for the players they will lose transferring from MTGO to Digial next. The model would include cheaper buy ins for drafts, free to play accessibility, more cowbell, better graphics, and more that I can't even think of right now.

I think MTGO is at a crossroads-it has been around for almost 20 years-I think Magic Digital Next will have a large bearing on whether MTGO will be here for the next 20 years.

Hey Lopkip! I also believe Magic Digital Next has the potential to be a big game changer if executed correctly. It can't be stressed enough the importance of WOTC making their loyal customers feel valued, and offering free to play options (WITH REWARDS!!). A profit model really does have to include bringing in new customers, and quite frankly that percentage of new customers will only lower and lower when there are free, more aesthetically pleasing options out there.

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